Tigers Punt Pathetic Irish

Notre Dame spotted Clemson ten first half points with a pick six and a fumbled punt and the Fighting Irish could not recover in a 31-23 defeat. A sputtering offense could find no traction in the final 20 minutes even though the defense tightened up and gave them numerous opportunities. Punter Aidan Swanson pinned Notre Dame deep in its own territory five consecutive times in that stretch while quarterback Sam Hartman could not find time in the pocket or an open receiver.

Tailback Phil Mafah was a force for Clemson. He ran for 186 yards on 36 carries with two touchdowns. Special teams also played an important role as the Tigers dominated play and field position all day. Offensively, Notre Dame was just three of 13 on third down. Hartman had by far his worst game of the season, going 13 of 30 for 146 yards and two interceptions. Many of his throws were under duress but several others simply did not come close to being completed. Cade Klubnik was not much better for the victors but he didn’t have to win the game by himself.

Tailback Phil Mafah left the Irish defenders in the dust

The Irish took the opening kickoff and marched down the field with Audric Estime leading the way. The drive stalled in the red zone, however, and that would become a recurring theme for the visitors. Notre Dame’s 3-0 lead didn’t last long as Clemson returned a punt to the Irish 41 yard line moments later. Mafah blew past Marist Liufau on the next play on his way to a 7-3 Tiger advantage. The teams exchanged field goals to make it 10-6 Clemson before the Tigers embarked on a long march to make it 17-6 early in the second period. Klubnik hit Tyler Brown for a nine-yard touchdown.

Hartman tried to answer for the Irish, but his horrible pass was picked off by Jeremiah Trotter and returned for a touchdown. As the clock wound down toward halftime, Notre Dame could only manage another three points as red zone failures continued to mount. The Irish had a first and goal at the Tiger three yard line and could not gain an inch.

Trailing by 24-9, Notre Dame saw it’s first glimmer of hope early in the third quarter. Klubnik was picked off by Xavier Watts, who returned the ball to the two yard line. This time, Estime was able to punch it in and the deficit shrank to 24-16.

Despite the momentum shift to the Irish, the Tigers responded with a clutch scoring drive from which Notre Dame would never recover. Mafah covered the last yard and Clemson led by 31-16. Hartman answered by engineering a drive he finished with a 26-yard scramble to make it 31-23, but no one could have predicted how frustrating the next 21 minutes would be for Notre Dame.

The Irish defense finally regrouped and shut down Clemson’s attack the rest of the way, but the offense would not threaten to score again. Swanson’s punts repeatedly kept Hartman in the shadow of his own goal line, and Notre Dame could not move the ball well enough to alter the poor field position. The level of offensive futility underscored the weakness of the Irish game plan, the deficiencies at wide receiver, Hartman’s poor decision-making and lack of accuracy, and the fact that the Tigers dominated the Irish offensive line.

The red zone failures on both sides of the ball were also critical. Clemson came into this contest with a poor record of execution in this area while Notre Dame was among the nation’s best. These prior stats were meaningless today. Had Notre Dame been able to score at least a pair of touchdowns from close range instead of having to settle for three first half field goals, those eight additional points would have offset the gifts they provided to the Tigers.

Make no mistake, though. The Irish did not deserve to win this game. They looked unprepared for Clemson’s early intensity and were outplayed in all three phases. The coaches deserve much of the blame, particularly Offensive Coordinator Gerad Parker, who called an awful game, Wide Receivers Coach Chansi Stucki, and Head Coach Marcus Freeman. Notre Dame is not a place for inexperienced coaches to undergo on the job training. Unfortunately, this has been the theme in all three losses this season.

Let’s review the answers to our pregame questions:

  • Can the Irish replicate last season’s success in the ground game? Estime ran well but the red zone was where everything came to a halt.
  • Will Notre Dame’s defense be able to create turnovers? Two turnovers including another interception by Watts kept the game within reach. The offense and special teams gave it away three times, however, and those errors were more consequential.
  • Can Hartman and the Irish receivers deliver explosive plays? Yes, the passing offense blew up in their faces.
  • Which offensive line will do the best job of protecting its quarterback? Clemson’s patchwork line won that battle against the overrated Irish front by a wide margin.
  • How far can Clemson ride the emotional wave driven by fan criticism? All the way to the field storming celebration.
  • Can the Notre Dame special teams continue to provide a spark? [Insert another lame explosion joke here]
  • Will Briningstool outperform the Irish tight ends without Evans? He was held in check with only two receptions. The Irish tight ends could manage only one.
  • How long will the Big-10 honchos be able to shield Michigan from punishment? At least until after the playoffs. The Big-10 desperately wants a championship, no matter how tainted it may be.

The loss drops the Irish out of major bowl consideration and effectively places this season into the “disappointment” category. Will any changes be made? I would like to believe so but I tend to doubt it. At minimum, the team needs an upgrade at Offensive Coordinator and must continue to improve the talent level on the roster.

At quarterback, it is time to end the practice of bringing in a hired gun from the transfer portal and begin to develop the current group of young players. There may be growing pains associated with this plan, but the team and its coaching staff have more work to do to become a true contender than the next version of Sam Hartman can provide. Hartman, to his credit, took much of the blame for this loss, but that is of little consolation now that the team has arrived at the crossroads leading to 2024 and beyond.

76 thoughts on “Tigers Punt Pathetic Irish

  1. Mark DeBoskey says:

    Great review of an embarrassing afternoon.
    Best point made:stop the transfer WB shenanigans or we’ll never be able to attract the top talent. Develop the men you recruit and, for goodness sake, find a REAL OC.

    • Ventura Pop Pop says:

      Last year Drew Pyne got the game ball after the Irish beat Clemson, a much better Clemson team – especially defense then the Irish played on Saturday. He received the game ball for managing the game. Sure he is shorter than Hartman and had some balls knocked down, but he kept his cool and the offense on tract and did not throw the game away. It still bothers me how disloyal ND was to Pyne, who only wanted to play for the Irish. Being disloyal to Pyne will go a long way in deterring future recruits who just want to play for ND. I truly believe that if ND had stuck with Pyne we would be no worse off than we are now, and maybe better.

      Bye the bye, Mr. Vannie, you and your column have given me much enjoyment over the years and I was truly saddened to hear about the loss of your wife. My heartfelt condolences.

  2. Notre Dame’s Football Program has devolved into something like cool, soggy bacon, over the past 30 years: no sizzle; not crisp. It needs a red-hot fry pan and a cook who knows how to use it. Can we expect that now, after all these years? No.

    So, I’m done here for this season. Hang in there, Mr. Vannie.

    Happy Holidays to all you ND Nation loyalists. Stay healthy, and pray for our country.

    • More like cool soggy toast served up by a cheap roadside diiner. Keep Freeman but look for other OC and DC. At the very least on the positive side we are looking at the departure of Swarbick and Jenkins. In wartime, the buck stops at the top. ND needs Generals George Marshall, Eisenhower, Patton, and the likes off Gen. Walter Beddle Smith (Beatle). We need more of these tuff guy at N.D. ( Remember Rockne). Regarding all the loses and losing seasons ND has had since 1988, very little of criticism has fallen on Swarbrick and Jenkins. Never would have happened in the US Army during WW2. Not the way it works. All the ND folks in charge at ND need to watch the movie, Patton, every day.

      • Inconsistent (overrated) line play and predicable play calling on both sides of the ball.
        These kids are too talented and fans have been too patient to have their time wasted by inexperienced or inept coaches or Administrations
        So, who the hell are you ND?

  3. Inexperienced head coach + inexperienced offensive coordinator + ineffective and inexperienced receivers = the dumpster fire that is the Notre Dame offense.

  4. Spot on review of a failed plan and a failed effort yesterday. Several questions arise:
    1) Given the progressive deterioration in SH’s performance throughout the post-tOSU schedule, particularly in his completion %age and the now all-too-often wild passes that widely miss the mark (many of which have NOT been under duress), is it possible he’s having vision problems? Some of those misses are just bumfuzzling.
    2) The O-line has been a MAJOR contributor to SH’s problems. Do we need a new O-line coach, in addition to OC?
    3) Do you think the university administration realizes there is any connection between the FB team’s weekly representation of the university and its wider reputation? Do they even care? In the 1950s, Fr. Hesburgh had an epiphany that revealed to him that it (paraphrasing here) “is not a sin to compete at the highest levels in college athletics any more so than it is in academics.” When did the ND administration decide Fr. Hesburgh was wrong?
    I’ll stop there….

  5. ND has become a school that stands for excellence in academics and mediocrity in football. I don’t see anything happening at ND to change that.

  6. With the departure of swarbrick and jenkins perhaps Freeman can get an experienced OC with no administrative interference. That might help the offense.

    The use of the ‘portal’ has to stop. Using the ‘portal’ is like taking heroin. At first it feels good. Eventually it kills you.

    Develop the players you recruit. If you insert ‘portal’ players over the recruited players, why should any recruits come to ND?

    “Just wait for next year.” /sarc

  7. ND will never learn to quit hiring a HC with no experience. Last succesful one was Rockne.
    The team is woeful on the road. That is on the entire coaching staff.
    Start Angeli!. Hartman is pathetic he got his NIL Under Armour $$ so he’s done.
    After waiting 36 yrs for a NC I’m close to being done.

  8. #❤️🍀50 says:

    ANOTHER PATHETIC LOSS🤦
    WTF is with these different uniforms!!!!???? We have the BEST BRAND NAME IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!!!! WHITE PANTS REALLY!!!???? WHAT ARE WE? OREGON NOW!!!??
    OFFENSE SUCKS!!!! WHY??? WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL OUR WRS!!!!!??????
    TIME for ANGELI to get 1st TEAM REPS this week to prepare for next year!!!!!!!
    GREAT JOB DEFENSE!!! HOPEFULY ALL THE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS BOUGHT YOU BEERS LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!
    WE ARE OFFICIALLY OUT OF THE J6 BOWL!!! AWESOME!!!!🙄
    UNTIL THE ADMINiSTRATION IS “ALL IN”, WHICH THEY WONT WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER NATION CHAMPIONSHIP!!!! WE MIGHT BE IN THERE BY LUCK, BUT THATS IT!!!!!!

  9. 1) I like Marcus Freeman as a human being, and I will continue to root for him. However, the data points are mounting that he does not have the motivational skill set to consistently prepare players for good but inferior opponents. We can at least take solace in being #1 in something–creating field-rushing moments for inferior opponents
    2) How did Greathouse play so well early in the season and then all but disappear (0 catches yesterday–really?)? Does Jayden Thomas still play for the Irish?
    3) Hartman seems to be throwing off his back foot a lot—his problem or because no receivers are getting open?
    4) Is it safe to assume we will get a great talent at OC in the offseason like we whiffed on this past offseason?
    5) 30 years in a row of disappointments and yet it still makes me sick and angry while others have taken the arguably more intelligent approach—simply stop hoping, watching, and caring

  10. Kevin Markowski says:

    This is the best college team without any coaches except the defense coordinator. All three losses fall on the shoulders of the coaches. Poor game plans, no decent game adjustments, poor clock management, little attention to detail (i.e. the 10 men on the field in the Ohio State just to mention one),and no improvement on offense as the season goes on. The most upsetting aspect is Freeman’s explanations when things go wrong.It really shows how little he understands the role of a head coach. I hope for his sake and the team’s future he learns quickly or every season will end up a disappointment.I think with the talent on this team under a a good coaching staff they should be at a minimum a 10 and 2 team if not 11 and 1.

  11. Paul Argentieri says:

    John Vannie is a little bit younger than me and I’m sure began rooting for ND with the era of Ara when we had in 13 years: QB’s Huarte; Hanratty: Theisman; Clements; Montana, who, except for Huarte, could all run, throw and great leaders with excellent running and clutch passing.

    The defense, if they were in title competition, had great defensive line and linebacker players, usually 3 first team All Americans in those units.

    Lou Holtz, who had monster schedules, restored the team as bad ass, beat Miami, until 1991 when his recruiting guru, Vinnie Cerrato, was shit canned by the admission gods and until Marcus, ND has not attempted to recruit ultra talent at every position.

    Kelly could have worked harder but even though he was the Notre Dame coach, he was really never a Notre Dame man and I believe Marcus is different in that respect.

    Great work John, and what if we had finished the O. State game properly.

    At least we beat up S. Cal and Caleb as a partial pay back for Anthony Davis et al., just keep it going to all the teams!

    Paul A.

    • Bill Zloch wasn’t a superstar quarterback in 1965 but he was the right one to keep ND’s heavily run-oriented offense working smoothly (and ferociously). Nick Eddy and Larry Conjar made opponents sorry they ever had to try to tackle them. Notre Dame finished 8th in the final AP poll. There were some great teams that year closer to the top. And off he went, a Notre Dame graduate doing admirable things in the great world. And enter Terry Hanratty, age 18, famously helping the Irish to the National Championship.

  12. Excellent review . Hopefully Freeman will learn from this fiasco.I hope he has enough backbone to make changes, especially in his staff. Parker has been terrible all year.without our stout defense, we could easily be 5-5. I also wonder about our wide receivers coach.Our wideouts run poor pass patterns and hardly ever get separation on their routesThis rut of 9-3 or 10-2 has to stop.I guess we are all a little
    spoiled, but it seems like the same story even year. Thanks for letting me vent.

    • I’m with you, I truly hope Freeman has the stones to make the needed changes, the OC and WR coaches have to go.

      • A few thoughts on the offense, particularly the passing game….

        What is the reason behind the abject failure of ND’s pass offense? I am frustrated by the simple, unimaginitive play designs and progressions that do little to ensure that someone will get open. They are at high school level. When a play breaks down, the receivers just stand still instead of going into a prescribed scramble drill to help the quarterback. They never come back for the ball and visibly give up rather than extend themselves to make a difficult catch.

        Is this failure solely on Parker, or is he keeping things deliberately simple because the wide receivers are predominately very young?

        It could be a little of both, but at this point in the season Parker becomes the prime suspect since we’re getting worse instead of better. He is also the tight ends coach, and the guys who filled in for Evans this week were not ready to contribute.

        Two other factors also compound the problem. Stuckey is not exempt from some heat as well. Merriweather is his own personal albatross. He’s not responsible for the mid season injuries to Thomas, Greathouse, and Colzie, though.

        Pass protection by the line has also regressed. When Hartman gets sacked or hit early in a game, he immediately starts to throw passes off his back foot. It’s a definite tell that he is gunshy in the pocket. It’s nice that he can run but the team needs him to throw it on time and on target.

        I doubt that Freeman can watch this clusterf*ck without realizing he has a problem. What he chooses to do about it and what the administration will allow are open questions. Both parties need to act decisively while being on the same page. My belief is that Freeman can drop the nice guy persona when it comes to a problem that directly impacts his reputation and livelihood.

        My only wish is that Swarbrick were already out of the way without any possibility of interjecting himself and his massive ego into what needs to be done.

        We’ll see.

        • The criticism of the coaches is accurate and warranted. But the players bear a good bit of responsibility for the loss. Our center and guards were getting blasted into the backfield on their a$$es by Clemson’s nose guard and DTs….embarrassing.

        • JV, I was just about to ask who you think bears the brunt of our offensive woes. At the end of the game I text my DIL that our OC has zero creativity. I also observed Hartman scramble under pressure and watched a receiver just standing with a defender on his backside, No common sense to move whatsoever. And how hard is it to roll your QB out to buy some time if the line can’t protect him. IMO, the OC has to go.

        • Excellent analysis! Why is ND the only team in the country that insists on playing 5 RB every game instead of sticking with the “hot hand”? Estime is a beast. Unless he was injured, he should not have had to wait 3 series to get another touch after gaining 57 yards on 3 carries on the opening drive. Insanity!

          Any OC or fan of the game for that matter should know, the way you limit pressure is by using screens and draws. We run very few screens to our RBs out of the backfield this year and defenses can just pin their ears back and rush without getting burned. Everyone that watched the game, except the coaching staff apparently, could see that Fisher was getting beat consistently. Why not leave a RB or TE over there to help or at least chip that defender to give him some help? With the issues the WR have at getting separation, every second of extra time we can buy for them to get open or for the QB to move through his progressions is very valuable.

          They killed us with running the ball and with quick, short passes. The defense had it’s struggles on the day for sure, but they ultimately did their job and got a couple of huge turnovers at crucial times. They played well enough to win this game.

          • I heard the same but was asked to keep it quiet. It’s hard to keep the lid on things like this when people start to find out.

    • ND is on the same road Vanderbilt began on long ago. The only difference is that Vanderbilt is rated very high in academic rankings and ND is not and falls in ranking every year. When you graduate from ND, better look for a job in a city where there are a lot of Doomers.

      • Come on, I know it’s a disapponting loss, but comparing us to Vanderbilt on the football field…really?! And, where are you getting that ND is falling in academic rankings “every year?” That is simply not true.

  13. FIRE GERAD PARKER NOW!!!

    Start the search for a *PROVEN* OC. Estime starts the game with 55 yards on 5 carries and then he doesn’t get another look?? If I can tell you based on formation and personnel what the play is going to be pre-snap, so can any DC. They knew what ND was going to do on nearly every snap.

    • I hope they are not reading our signs…
      My worry is that Freeman will default to the Portal in fixing Quarterback play. I feel that every year of Brian Kelly was a regressing psychodrama in this respect. There always needs to be two game ready QBs.
      Preseason we needed 2 out of 3 of OSU, Troy or Tigers. 1 out of 3 is mediocre. The AP poll reflects this. Expectations were not met.
      Great Review JV.

      • Even Harbaugh wouldn’t need to steal signs to know what this team is going to do. It doesn’t take sign stealing or rocket science to figure out this offense. 13 of 15 early plays were run plays. Where is the play action to setup deep passes? It is not there! Pack your bags Parker, you SUCK!!! Even with Sam Hartman at QB and Audric Estime at RB, this offense sucks. It is not the players, it is the scheme (or lack thereof). Al Golden knows how to scheme. Gerad Parker is a complete fraud!

  14. Great review John.

    Whilst the coaches deserve the scruitiny for preparing and executing a game plan, the players must also share in the poor performances. Way too many of them are just not tough players– they get roughed up and they just take it. The ‘O” line especially is not tough- they get pushed around and this year, thrown down on their backsides now and then. They don’t seeem to be able to handle any kind of stunts either. Good teams have exploited our less-than-mundane offense, which brings me to Hartman. He’s not a big game QB- not here or was at Wake. He’s same as it ever was for us these past 8-9 years, save for Kiser. Time to sit him, at least for poor performance and decision-making and try Angelli. Or expect more issues, starting at A&M next year.

  15. Oh FFS if not for two plays (fumbled punt and pick 6) we would have won in a very hostile environment. I think MF has done an excellent job with the personnel he has. Let’s face it: We have NO talent at WR and NO depth at TE (Evans getting hurt was a real blow). You want to replace the OC? Fine. But get some speed and talent at the skill positions for a new OC to work with. Our entire offense is Estime– and everyone knows it.

  16. I think everyone here has made all the points that I wanted to make. I can only add fuel to the fire and state that even Kelly with Rees as OC would have beat this 4-4 Clemson team. Speaking of fuel to the fire…does this mean we have to burn the white pants?!!

  17. JVAN,

    Well, I predicted 8-4 this year and I wouldn’t be surprised if Stanford somehow beats us in a couple of weeks to make that a reality!

    Another disappearing act by the Irish Offense.

    More poor tackling.

    More mismanagement from Coaches. Where was Estime in the 2nd Half!

    Poor Special Teams.

    WR separation non existent.

    Shall I go on?

  18. Hello John,

    Tough loss yesterday. Any loss stinks and it ruins my weekend!! I really like Coach Freeman and hope he brings home a National Championship real soon!! Even though he lacks experience as a Head Coach, even in the losses the team still had chances to win the game and never get blown out in big games ( OSU, Clemson, USC, ETC….). Unlike Coach Kelly who has over 25 years of Head Coaching experience and has been blown out by some big boy programs ( Michigan, Miami, Clemson, Alabama, etc….).

    John, despite the lack of experience, do you feel that Coach Freeman is ahead of the curve compare to coaches like Weiss, Davie, Faust, Willingham, Brennan, that had little to no experience as the head guy.

    Thanks and GO IRISH BEAT Wake Forrest!!!!!

    • Joe,

      It seems to me that Freeman’s learning curve is typical for a first time head coach. It’s neither ahead nor behind a curve that a reasonable person should expect. Comparatively close losses to mediocre opponents do not make anyone feel better or believe he is any closer to consistently winning them. The real issue is that Notre Dame has once again failed to learn that the job is not meant for rookie coaches. There is a pile of bodies in that graveyard and you named a few of them in your post.

      John

      • To paraphrase about doing the same thing over and over (hiring rookie coaches) and expecting different results comes to mind. ND has not learned that lesson from Terry Brennan on. University of higher learning?

    • Before he was injured I questioned keeping him that long in a blowout…also questioned keeping Estime in with backup quarterback…I know you never can tell when an injury can take place, but why tempt fate?

  19. Well written and excellent article John. I imagine it took a little self-motivation to do. Or, maybe I am projecting how I feel.

    • You’re so right, Dave. I got home late last night and forced myself to write an expletive-free article. I had to set the clock back an hour so I could still go to bed on time!

  20. Kelly with Rees as OC would have beaten this Clemson team??!! I disagree with this hypothetical. In my opinion if Kelly and Rees were in charge yesterday I expect they would have also abandoned the run in the second half if not in the first half when ND got down 24-6 or even 17-6.

    • Comparing the Kelly regime with Freeman and Parker misses the point. The inescapable fact is that the Notre Dame football program needs and deserves superior coaching. We haven’t seen that in over 25 years.

      • I agree with your comment.

        Also, just want to express my appreciation for your previews and the follow up post-mortems. You consistently offer fair criticisms and deserved praise as warranted.

  21. I like Marcus Freeman and I think he will be a successful coach…. someday. I don’t know if it will be with the Irish. He has surrounded himself with a mediocre staff that has become predictable and stagnant. As others have mentioned, the Offensive co-ordinator leaves little to the imagination and is stagnant in his approach to a varied offense. What is with the tackling? Freeman mentions it after every loss; sadly it doesn’t seem as though the PLAYERS have received the message this late in the season. Holtz would have never gone this far repeating that problem. The highly touted offensive line isn’t and apparently has been dwelling on their own hype with lots of guys on their heels; let’s see some pancake blocks.
    The dbs would be well served to occasionally jamb the receiver at the line as allowed and give the defensive line some more time with their pressure but I’m just a game watcher.

    • Patrick Mellon says:

      There is no doubt we missed Evans. Great pass patterns and hands. But I just can’t believe the pass patterns the receivers tried to run and with no blocking and we never seemed to adjust.

  22. The early season college football most overhyped frauds: 1.Coach Prime; 2. Sam Hartman; 3. Notre Dame Offensive Line.

    I disagree with the commenters who suggest ND should abandon the transfer portal. Smart use of the transfer portal and the NIL pay-to-play system are now essential to success in college football. It’s nice to say you should develop the players you recruited from high school, but those who don’t play or play as soon as their parents think they should routinely leave your program for somewhere else. I agree that limiting yourself to graduate transfer QBs who did not distinguish themselves during their undergraduate days is not smart use of the transfer portal. All it did was provide incentive to the recruits to go elsewhere. However, many teams today succeed with QBs who transferred in.

  23. So this was the 10th game of the year and the offense hasn’t evolved or improved at all and in fact looks like it’s regressed. Parker was still just running Estime and grab bagging some pass plays. Hartman’s accuracy was terrible most of the game. The offense would be better had Rees stayed. Rees got more out of Drew Pyne than Parker is getting out of Hartman. Parker needs to be demoted back to TE’s coach at the end of the year and they need to find an experienced offensive coordinator.

    Clemson avenged last year’s physical domination by ND and owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball yesterday. Marcus Freeman had a clueless look on his face for most of the game.

    We’d be 7-3 with Tyler Buchner under center so taking Hartman from the transfer portal didn’t take ND to the next level.

    Marcus Freeman was 1-2 in 2022 against the OSU, USC and Clemson and he’s 1-2 this year. ND is headed for a second tier bowl and at best will be 10-3 so the program is currently spinning its wheels although the super fans will claim that once Marcus’s stud recruits get on campus things will change. But we heard that all through the Weis era and ND actually got worse.

        • The regular season is always more interesting than the bowl games.
          If you are trying to sarcastic, or snarky, or scolding like some old hen, or something along those pseudo-didactic lines, I think you should try harder.
          Back at the gridiron, give Estime the ball more. If you have an elite running back, you use your elite running back.

  24. John – i had to wait until Sunday evening to send my comments – the extra hour sleep was more like a nighmare. Notre Dame was totally out played,out coached and unprepared vs Clemson. i have said it in previous replies – Notre Dame isn’t about having inexperience as the Head Football Coach – there is no room for ” learning on the job” – this isn’t student teaching. Once again there was a look of confusion, dismay, and a total lack of adjustment. Did you ever see any ” coaching ” during the Game ? When the Offense or Defense comes off the Field ? None.
    The transfer QB’s aren’t difference makers – never have been and this year adds to that list. If they aren’t recruited to come to ND out of High School there must be a reason for that. Develop,teach your own guys. Angeli needs to play these next 2 games or he may be another to leave. I was left wondering if Hartman had a problem with his arm – no zip on his throws and he looked very unsure of himself. Very disappointed with the effort in all phases. Losing to the Cheerleader Sweeney hurts. Accountability starts at the top – it has been missing – yesterday showed it very clearly.

  25. Excellent article and good comments. A nice read to help move past the aggravation of a tough loss. Freeman is the right coach and needs a little time to grow into the position, as well as improve his staff. The DC will likely take another head coaching job after this season and the OC does need replacing. Sam Hartman is a serious upgrade at QB and should keep his starting job. A classy guy (see his actions after the Duke game and his TD run against Clemson). He made a commitment to us and we should keep our commitment to him. What he needs are better play calling and receivers that don’t stand around being covered.
    ND is no longer overmatched against the OSUs and USCs of the world. Prior coaches have been crushed annually by the top tier of college football. Partly because of talent but mostly due to poor coaching. Clemson is better than a 4-4 team and Dabo correctly said that ND should have beaten OSU. Mistakes happen and I respect Freeman for not throwing the people or person responsible for 10 men on the field against OSU under the bus. It might have been a 19 year old kid who made the mistake. These things happen. The important thing is ND is now able to compete with the best and win.
    Ara and Lou brought their own staffs when they came to ND. A luxury and head start that Freeman did not have. Even so, he has done a very good job of making ND relevant again. We now have, finally, a Notre Dame man leading the team and it shows.
    As an alum of the Ara years, I see the program on the right path. And it’s been a long time since I felt that way.

  26. John, I always enjoy your articles and I feel the frustration of many on this board. I am happy that Jack and Fr. Jenkins will be leaving soon. I was very grumpy this weekend. I usually go to mass at the Basilica and there was an Ethics conference going on and many there were holding seats and I was frustrated and did not feel like standing for over an hour and went elsewhere for mass Saturday night. I was perplexed when I watched the local news this morning and saw that Fr. Jenkins gave his blessing to have a drag show on campus this weekend and that there is a class called the History of Drag. My mood sure did not improve when I saw that, and it makes me think ethics conference and drag show? WOW.

    OUr Lady of Sorrows….Pray for us!

  27. It’s like ND can’t handle the pressure of being successful and elite. Whenever they start to win consecutive games and have the hype behind them that’s when they shit the bed. I don’t know why but that’s the feeling I get. Is that on the coaches or the players? I tend to lean toward coaching failures at this point. Our OC needs to go. Just not creative enough or good at in game decision adjustments to what the defense is giving him. I think Sam Hartman is over rated. Seems like a nice guy but nice guy does nothing for our win column. Now with that being said I don’t think Sam Hartman completely sucks, I think he is a decent QB, just not the second coming of Joe Montana that some of the media made him out to be. I think we should try to recruit and develop our young QBS as well. Not look in the transfer portal for them unless a YOUNGER great one is available; with multiple years left of eligibility. I was always worried about Clemson this year. They are so well coached and as we know coaching means everything.

  28. John, now that we have been eliminated from the college football playoffs and a meaningful bowl game, do you think we should sit Sam Hartman and let the other QBs get a shot at meaningful reps? Sam is not our future.

    • Yes, I do. Starting Angeli should not be a high risk proposition against the two weak remaining opponents. It’s best not to wait until spring to find out what Angeli and Minchey can do. It would also clarify whether ND needs to pursue another veteran in the portal for 2024. I would rather not go that route because it sends the wrong message to the young QBs on the roster and to both committed and uncommitted recruits.

  29. I think most of us have devolved into sentimental dolts. We love the thought of Notre Dame football; the tradition, the memories, the pilgrimages we enjoyed with our families. We also like Coach Freeman, the kind and gentle soul that he is; how can’t you appreciate the character and demeanor of this young man? Most of us realize that while Notre Dame is a good football program, it is far from elite. A blind man could have predicted last Saturday’s debacle. Clemson is a tough place to play regardless of their mediocre record. Coach Freeman failed to prepare them for the grueling away contest, much like he failed with Louisville. The players hung in there but were unable to convert on the big plays as brother Vannie articulated. They were beaten in every phase of the game. We will continue to cheer for our beloved Irish come hell or high water, but the dreams of an NC are just that. Sadly, the program and administration are content with this outcome.

    I am sorry for your loss, John.

  30. How long does Freeman get for on-the-job training, and how long can we put the bulk of the blame for losses on his coordinators? I love Hartman; his attitude his leadership, but I think we got overhyped on him just because we’ve been so used to the marginal, at best, QB talents of Rees and Book. This team has no identity other than thinking the red zone is a no-go zone.

    Still amazed Evans was still in the Pitt game at extreme garbage time to get hurt.

  31. Robert P Ehinger says:

    Pretty good synopsis. One additional note – maybe Sweeney and Clemson know something about Hartman as he is now 0-5 against them. Also, offensive play calling was about as bad as I have seen it all year. Where did Estime after that first drive? Why is it so hard to gain 3 yards in three tries on the goal line? Where is the creativity? Where were the routes down the middle? FRUSTRATING to wach.

  32. It is time to recognize that Freeman is not up to the job of head coach at Notre Dame. The sooner that happens, the better.