if they want it, yes! But...
by DavidAddison (2019-01-16 16:10:48)

In reply to: No, but they should get a fourth year, don’t you think? *  posted by ACross


it's possible this is seen by all parties as a win-win. Kid gets his degree AND two years of eligibility at a school of his choice, where his playing time will undoubtedly be higher (much higher).

If the kid were forced out before he got his ND degree, that would be a different matter entirely. Also, if the kid just really wanted to finish out his 4th year at ND and play football (though likely not play in games), he should be allowed to.


I agree with DA
by El Kabong  (2019-01-16 16:32:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

ND promises its players a degree and an opportunity to play.

For these guys, ND has fulfilled its promise.

If those players want to get more PT and go somewhere else for one or two semesters with ND degree in hand, I have a hard time faulting anyone involved.


Exactly. With a degree in hand both sides honored the
by btd  (2019-01-16 23:59:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Agreement.


Nd didn’t “honor the agreement” if they forced him out
by ACross  (2019-01-17 10:22:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

After his junior year.


Grad School is not a right your scholarship is for undergrad *
by LaughingTulkas  (2019-01-17 17:04:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Your scholarship is for any education
by HTownND  (2019-01-18 09:41:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

While you are playing the sport


Eh
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-01-18 14:17:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Scholarships are one-year renewable contracts. I think that's a terrible and exploitative system, but that's what the agreement is.

To the normative or moral question of honoring a fair agreement, I don't think that agreement should be measured by the entirely arbitrary timeframe of a period of years, but instead based on the purpose of attending the University. The purpose of attending ND is to obtain a degree, not to attend classes for four years. ND does better by a student who graduates in three or three and a half years than it does by a student who takes classes for four, but does not graduate.


That’s a rather moronic interpretation
by ACross  (2019-01-17 21:42:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Reward a student’s industry by a foot in the pants.


There's reason to be suspicious given the history....
by Marine Domer  (2019-01-16 16:39:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

of our coach and AD, but it's also plausible that they've just gotten smarter about roster management. They may well have had some of these conversations weeks ago, and recruited with knowledge of who was staying and who was planning on leaving, rather than who they were planning to push out.


Agree with this
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-01-16 16:52:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And my concerns of abuse are much lower when the kid has graduated. I don't think there's an entitlement to a 4th year of fucking around.