The primary purpose of college is to get you ready

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Whether this is true is dependent on a lot of class-based - tdiddy07 2023-03-24 11:59:39
The falsest of false equivalencies - wpkirish 2023-03-24 11:26:48
- Research money at the top schools dwarfs sports money. - dfw 2023-03-24 15:15:15
  - John’s Hopkins pulls in more than our endowment returns - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:36:54
    - hopefully they redistribute that money properly - jt 2023-03-24 16:42:15
    - Students pull in that money or professors? * - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:03:59
      - hopefully those professors who do pull in that money - jt 2023-03-24 16:44:31
  - Quesiton on Academic v. Athletic Scholarships - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:31:32
    - Same logic. Nd makes money because of the brand - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:38:27
      - But would you support requiring academic scholarship - wpkirish 2023-03-24 18:06:40
        Just give scholarships based on need only. - doolinbanjos 2023-03-25 14:52:06
      - If it is the brand why do we care what recruits sign to play - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:15:20
        the money obviously comes from both - jt 2023-03-25 11:07:40
        Have you put your marker down? - squid 2023-03-26 14:31:13
        $699,832 of expense per ND football scholarship player - MrE 2023-03-26 15:43:08
        Having seen these sorts of things before (not ND) - jt 2023-03-26 22:07:20
        What is misleading about including coaching expenses? - squid 2023-03-27 03:47:17
        the 85k is not accurate when referring to "cost" to ND - jt 2023-03-27 11:53:27
        Ridiculous. - squid 2023-03-27 12:47:09
        85k is full freight tuition - jt 2023-03-27 12:56:16
        FWIW, there's a fair amount of research on the cost of - FL_Irish 2023-03-27 15:10:45
        OK .. I'll bite. What is the annual cost of an ND education? * - NDFanSince81 2023-03-27 14:43:24
        Tuition is the only direct cost spent on players. Got it. * - squid 2023-03-27 13:13:13
        It’s taking everything, and then dividing by 85 - MrE 2023-03-26 22:40:31
        any way you slice it - jt 2023-03-27 01:02:07
        yes Profit per football player = $908,267 * - MrE 2023-03-27 09:57:23
        And when someone complains tutition is too high they say - wpkirish 2023-03-25 12:56:15
- 85 x 85000 isn’t chump change * - airborneirish 2023-03-24 13:15:59
  - I am not saying it is and as the parent of a HS JR I would - wpkirish 2023-03-24 13:36:54
    - You’re not doing the math right. At all - airborneirish 2023-03-24 14:57:04
      - Seems to me everyone is coming at it from the ass end - gregmorrissey 2023-03-24 19:47:17
      - it costs Notre Dame 85,000 each for 85 scholarship athletes? - jt 2023-03-24 16:32:47
      - The teams bring in that revenue. - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:18:39
        Spoiler. I think they are barely worth the scholarship at - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:30:37
        they are worth whatever the market will bear - jt 2023-03-24 16:35:16
        Then let's open up the market - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-25 09:23:47
        It’s not going to be any different than the NFL. - smithwick 2023-03-25 13:29:44
        I’d pay Morrison $1.5M per year - MrE 2023-03-25 14:14:20
        Again, telling other people what to do - gregmorrissey 2023-03-25 11:10:57
        It's to not let them collude in ways that would be illegal - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-25 21:50:45
        Just to clarify, I'm not advocating forced pay - gregmorrissey 2023-03-27 12:19:37
        If they are employees... - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-28 12:38:38
        Freedom to contract != forced pay - gregmorrissey 2023-03-28 15:00:07
        ND's player payroll is ~$2.125M per year. - MrE 2023-03-28 15:09:11
        So it would seem they aren't being forced at all - gregmorrissey 2023-03-28 16:03:54
        BTW, you'd like Wetzel/Forde podcast from yesterday. - MrE 2023-03-28 18:24:01
        Thanks. I agreed with the guy against the nanny state - gregmorrissey 2023-03-29 09:55:42
        Regarding "running it wide open for 5 or so years" - MrE 2023-03-29 10:16:14
        Better one yesterday (1-hr) - Andy Staples podcast with - MrE 2023-03-29 10:07:34
        Swarbrick encourages us to give more to the cause, and - MrE 2023-03-28 17:20:04
        every current player (and recruits) should have agents - MrE 2023-03-27 12:53:45
        Change is messy. It would eventually find order - gregmorrissey 2023-03-27 13:28:46
        I'm good w/ that-as long as CFB players can extract every $ - MrE 2023-03-27 13:31:47
        it's a collectively bargained agreement - jt 2023-03-26 01:04:04
        In the early 90s, - smithwick 2023-03-24 16:12:59
        the cost of a scholarship was not 20k - jt 2023-03-24 16:37:23
        Said better, the value of compensation directly - smithwick 2023-03-24 16:59:44
        agree - jt 2023-03-24 17:07:36
        Schools are bidding on other schools' players already. - MrE 2023-03-24 15:29:00
        85000 x 85 != $5 million - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:35:15
        "subsidizing women's sports" - jt 2023-03-24 16:40:22
        Title IX forces that does it not? * - OITLinebacker 2023-03-25 09:06:07
        once again, that's a University problem - jt 2023-03-25 11:10:04
        Eh, sane businesses wouldn't have D&A be 15% of revenue - NavyJoe 2023-03-24 16:39:32
        And spend that way because they know they dont need to pay - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:48:11
        Yes, obviously - NavyJoe 2023-03-24 16:56:53
        I used $8M for ND FB scholarships - MrE 2023-03-24 15:38:01
        Now add in all the losses from the women’s teams - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:28:15
        Two different issues - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:42:08
        strangely enough, whenever you or I or anyone else asks - jt 2023-03-25 14:14:34