any of the players you mention playing any real football so far this spring? Or is it all just based on shorts & t-shirts and half-speed drills in shells?
to the media. They've already seen 2 entire practices in full pads.
They're scheduled to see another 2 or 3 FULL practices in pads. They typically get one full practice and then the Blue and Gold game itself.
At the same time, I bet the run game's been safely tucked under the Veil of Secrecy. Wouldn't want to divulge too much information about all of our three running plays.
I guess if we really want to know how our run game is structured, we'll just have to refer to Clemson's spring practice videos. After all, they run the same offense we do, but Dabo's a hick and doesn't know enough to hide his cards.
But going by his track record, I’m not sure if that’s a good sign or not. He and Swarbrick felt great about where the program was heading into 2016. There was also a great feeling prior to 2013 before taking steps back in the next two years. And his confidence in his qb is inversely related to team success.
That having been said, in fall camp he said there were a lot of concerns and it would show often.
The team had the talent to win 9 games at least by the way. I wouldn't say they were overly optimistic though
they all...
It was never going to happen, but he hoped it would.
Couple that with Watkins getting shut down in fall camp, Crawford going down for the year in game 2, a mess at quarterback, poor defensive recruiting, and BVG and it's not a surprise that season spiraled.
The next season the team went 10-3 and ran the ball down teams' throats. Other than BVG, the other points that you cite as contributing to the spiral were not particularly significant in light of the success of the 2016 team, which featured significantly worse quarterback play.
Kelly's mismanagement of the team in 2016 appears to be a far greater influence than the other cumulative factors, apart from BVG's presence. And even that only lasted half of the year. And the team still looked like shit even after he left when it got a defensive performance that wasn't much different than the performance in the full 2017 season.
That we lost 8 games that year is all on the coaches, and is easily the worst coaching job in major college football of the last 30 years.
in 2007 we lost to Navy, weren't competitive against Air Force, and had to squeak by a pretty bad Stanford team. Most of our games were just a comedy of errors and the team was unprepared to play. We had one system that was installed all summer long that was thrown out after a half of football, we had a defensive coordinator woefully unable to do his job, and we had a head coach that had no idea how to get the team ready for the season.
That is the worst coaching job I've ever seen in a major college program. 2016 was bad as well
the 2007 team was almost devoid of upperclassemen thanks to Ty's complete lack of recruiting for 2 years. Kelly didn't have that built-in excuse (which I think was actually a legimitate reason, given how few players were signed).
On the other hand, I do believe that if Weis approached 2007 with Sharpley at starting QB with his base offense (whatever the hell it was) and just let the team take its lumps, we could have squeeked out with a couple more wins.
4 or so wins.
Brown was just so unprepared and incompetent, but at least he had the excuse of being new to the job. BVG is just awful.
Probably a push, but both jobs were awful.
It was more embarrassing than '07. At least that year the recruiting crater could be seen.
the last four years would have a good chance at going 12-0 against a schedule like that. Ironically, there were a good number of players on the 2016 team that were part of the other teams' success.
I know Swarbrick waxed on about how great of a position the program was in. I certainly didn't pick up on it at the time if Kelly sounded less optimistic than usual.
know how you separate the boys from the men, unless maybe via the 'Wow! Factor'.
(and even more with Kelly as HC)
Yes--Book was an upgrade from Wimbush, but the offense didn't exactly light it up with him at QB. And he had a very bad game when it counted the most.
Reports are that Book looks good this Spring except that he still can't pass it deep worth a shit. That is ok, except when you play a really good and talented team(Clemson).
Book is basically Tommy Rees with better wheels and a slightly better arm.
In order to take advantage of the speed of the Soph WR's and beat elite teams--this offense is going to eventually need Jurkovec at QB. It is up to the ND coaches to have him ready.
The reality is that Kelly's offense is custom built to cause any QB to fail miserably and crater his career.
I said in my first sentence that Kelly is the bigger problem.
It probably doesn't matter who plays QB with Kelly as HC--but I was just stating that I don't think Book has skill set needed to lead ND to a playoff win or more.
If you look at the 4 teams in the playoffs last year--the other 3 had superior QB's(and Coaches). I don't think Saban,Swiney or Riley would recruit or even play a QB like Book who could not threaten the back end of a defense.
It is a shame that ND will waste some fine Sophomore speed at WR because the QB can't get the ball downfield. Last year, I think ND had only 1 pass play of over 50 yards. No matter how much Book practices the deep ball--he will never be a real threat with it.
He is quicker but no home run ball. I was disappointed in his
performance against Clemson and USC.
Fr. John said BK has corrected his mistakes and Savvy knows more than the rest of us.
Book will never be great against elite teams.
Nor will anybody else under Kelly.
We might as well root for Ian to be as
good as he can.
offense.
My take is that he expects too much out of his QB in the offense in a college system that only allows for 20 hrs per week of practice.
Dabo does appear to ask his QBs to do too much within the offense. That of course is dependent on how well he coaches the QBs to start with.
Offense with different emphasis, gameplans.
By your definition, no two offenses are the same - Clemson “changed offenses” from year to year (Even though they ran the same offense). Continuing, if you use your definition then no team would run the same offense week to week.
...then it isn't the same offense.
If it were the same offense, then Swinney, overall, would put as much responsibility on his QB that Kelly does. He does not, so it is not.
scheme is how it’s usually defined. We have the same base scheme as Clemson.
All enlightenment starts with a definition of terms.
What makes you think that they have the same base offense besides that both teams run most of their plays with the QB in shotgun?
Is your position that all spread offenses are the same?
His system's design and approach is not the same as any other design and approach
Specifically?
This will be like Donald explaining the circles of healthcare.
How cool was it when Shaw got stuffed for the 100th time in a row on 4th and 1 but used 7 offensive lineman? His offense ranked 123rd in the country, but his kids play tough, power football like we used to under Holtz.
Or that time Harbaugh lined up in a 10-man I-formation? Manball. BK could take a page out of Jim's book, right?
The two of you together - a real brain trust. 10 total watts.
You can make believe the discussions never happened, or that the games and seasons were never played, or watched, or dissected, and that the aroma has wafted away. We know the differences between the offenses.
Begging of the question. Whom does this work on?
Whereas you have been wildly inconsistent, and claiming you're right while simultaneously changing your mind on everything. I'd understand if you had a jt level of knowledge of the game, but you are wrong about nearly everything when you make predictions.
to win 8 games the last two years
freshman.
He's a 5-star.
I'm just saying that 4-stars can perform too if they're coached well.
That seems out of our reach with The 3-Star General.
Clemson can get 2 yards on the ground when it needs to, we can’t and have rarely ever been able to under Kelly’s stewardship.
So, you might be right that Clemson runs the same offense, but somehow they get the running game going just fine, and we struggle annually do the same.
You'd think that would count for something, but I guess he needs a couple more years in the system or something.
Kelly QBs only get worse the longer they are in the system
It didn't work out so well for Germany either.
I agree with you, but that's not how Kelly plays it here at ND.
Remember, Jurkovec only saw very brief mop-up action in two games in a year when he could have played in four with no eligibility penalty. We have a doofus running the show.